We often hear the line “Your network is your net worth,” but how important is it really to build an incredible one? In this episode of The Trust Doctor, business marketing strategist and social media monetization expert Ella Mae sits down with Dr. Patty Ann Tublin. Ella Mae started her career as a copywriter but always had a passion for connection and using social media to grow her network. Today, she helps businesses scale by connecting them with vetted vendors with solutions for people’s needs. Tune in as they go deep into the power of relationships, stepping out of your comfort zone, monetizing your social media, and building an incredible network.
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Building An Incredible Network: The Power Of Relationships With With Ella Mae
We have an incredible A-list guest for you. She is going to be sharing her wisdom and all of her strategies for success, but before we go any further, make sure you like, comment, share, and subscribe to this show. Our guest is Ella Mae. She is the CEO of One Degree and the host of the One Degree Show which you want to check out along with the over 400,000 downloads that her podcast has received.
Ella is an incredible entrepreneur who scales businesses by vetting them and connecting them with vendors that have solutions for people’s needs but rather than me tell you about her, let me introduce you to Ella Mae and you can hear her wisdom directly from the source. Thank you so much, Ella, for being a guest on the show.
Thank you for having me. I’m so excited to be here.
This is so great. I had been interviewed by Ella for her show. I said, “Ella, would you please be a guest on my show?” Since then, we have developed a little bit of a friendship, including making mistakes that only friends can make and getting away with it. Ella, tell our readers about all your brilliance, where you are now, and then how you got here. Start wherever you would like. Let’s reverse engineer.
I’m the CEO of One Degree, which is a company where we work with businesses that are scaling by connecting them with vetted vendors of solutions. What I will do is will generally meet with the CEO or the founder and say, “You are growing. Where’s the problem?” We take a hot minute to make sure we get to the real problem, not the symptoms of the problem.
The last time we chatted, I was telling you a lot of the time people think it’s like, “My ads aren’t scaling,” and we look into it, and the real problem is team, culture, and a turnover problem. We make sure we get to the root of what’s going on. Once we figure out what’s going on then I make intros to vetted people who can do what they say they can do that are within budget, and who could come in and implement solutions. To be able to have a business model like this, I had to have a very extensive network and experience with a lot of people to make sure that I’m making good recommendations and keeping my reputation intact.
I’m going to date myself and let everybody know that Ella has a golden Rolodex.
That’s one thing that I’ve done very well in entrepreneurship. There was a little bit of luck, opportunity, and taking charge of it but I had the chance to build an incredible network. The very first person that started to catapult that for me was our mutual friend, Joe Polish, who I have nothing but love for. He is incredible.
For the readers, you’ve read this a million times before. Joe Polish is the Founder of Genius Network.
Genius Network, of which Dr. Patty Ann is a member. Before I kicked off as an entrepreneur, I was an assistant for one of the best copywriters out there, Jon Benson for a few years. When I started working for Jon, I was his EA and I didn’t know what Zoom was. I should not have gotten that job as an EA but our personalities clicked and I learned quickly, and off you go.
As you said earlier, you fit into his culture. You can always learn a skill. It’s the culture.
I had no idea what the online world was at all.
This is so hard to believe because you are so incredibly successful. I can’t believe this. It’s amazing.
I’m suddenly his assistant. He had moved to Vancouver, which is where we were living at the time. I’m helping them get the house set up and all this stuff.
How many years ago was this?
It would have been 5 or 6 years.
Not that long ago. I want people to know what you have accomplished in such a short amount of time.
I started working for Jon and three months into it, he’s living in this beautiful penthouse apartment in Central Downtown Vancouver. I’m like, “This seems very legit.” I asked him, “What’s this copywriting thing that you do?” He was like, “It’s email sales letters. It’s words itself,” and I was like, “I could do that.” He was like, “If you want to give it a shot, go do these things.”
That’s what I love about entrepreneurs, anything reasonable goes. That is so awesome.
He is one of the good ones. He was like, “Go do these things and see if you like it, etc.” I rewrote famous sales letters, eighteen times and went through different stuff. While I was working for him, this guy charges $5,000 or $10,000 an hour or whatever it is now for his advice. He was a total sweetheart and completely mentored me throughout that period. I did a lot of copywriting for free.
In case there are readers that don’t know what copywriting is, please explain it to them.
There are a bunch of different kinds of copywriting but the easiest way is if you have ever put your email somewhere when you bought something or when you are on Victoria’s Secret or whatever and you got an email in your inbox that said, “Thanks so much. Here’s our sale.” The words on that email are copywriting. Sales pages are copywriting. Jon mentored me in copy and I learned online through osmosis. You are traveling and working with him, etc.
You traveled with him. You just didn’t work remote there.
He was fairly in demand for speeches and whatnot. We would go to California or to wherever when he was speaking at different events and all of this. The best training you will ever get for entrepreneurship, if you are going to do it is to work for a successful entrepreneur and see how it goes because it’s the weirdest job you will ever have.
It’s the, how do they do what they do?
There is no structure. You’ve got to adapt to them. You’ve got to know what’s coming next. Your job is to read minds and be incredible but when you are with the right person, it’s great. After I left working for Jon, I was a copywriter. I kicked off on my own.
Is that why Jon because you want to give it a shot?
We clicked well and I enjoyed working with him and he enjoyed having me. I remember one time he sat me down and he was like, “With what we are building and all of this is cool. You can essentially be like, Eunice,” which is Joe Polish’s longtime assistant who has a way more barrel than an assistant. She’s paid very well. She does insanely good work. She’s amazing.
She’s a sweetheart.
Jon sat me down one time and he was like, “What we are building here and how you are doing this, I could see you stepping into a role similar to Eunice. It’s going to be great compensation and you will be doing all this stuff,” and I broke down crying and started sobbing. He was like, “What’s wrong?” I was like, “Thank you. I appreciate it,” but if I don’t give my own business a shot, I’m going to hate myself. That wasn’t when I left. I left when that was a year in but I remember him making these future plans. There’s something inside me where I was like, “No, that’s not it.”
Is that because you saw enough of the behind-the-scenes as to what he and other entrepreneurs did that you knew it wasn’t magic there were real strategic steps and there was a how-to in a way?
F*** no. My first few years of entrepreneurship is terrifying and broke. I was scared and there wasn’t a lot of money. I lived with Jon. We have a very professional relationship but we worked out of his penthouse. We traveled together. I spent a lot of a few years with him. I heard most phone calls and everything. If there’s one thing I learned from Jon aside from copy, it was done right by people. Eighty-five percent of phone calls that came in were, “Jon, thank you so much for helping me with this one thing. Jon, thank you so much for several years ago when you had my back there.”
The point of life is to dig into it. See what you hate and like, and how you can gravitate toward what you like. See all of it.
Is it like going above and beyond what you are hired or contracted for?
This is where it is instilled a little bit. He knew the power of relationships. Maybe it was conscious or he liked people want to do right by them but it was cool to see and it was real. I was there. The calls came in. I got lucky to work for not just an incredible person but an incredible entrepreneur with an incredible skillset.
The reason why I said that about going above and beyond is because many times with entrepreneurs that I know like Joe Polish and Cameron Herold, besides the fact that they are brilliant at what they do and they also give so much more than they have to. That’s what I call going above and beyond. It sounds to me that when Jon was getting those calls, it wasn’t just, “Thank you for delivering,” what you said you would but you went above and beyond. There’s that relationship aspect of trust and genuinely caring and not going to cash your check.
The reason why I feel like Jon must have operated that way is that’s how you are. He was such a strong influence on who you became as a professional entrepreneur, it had to come from him. How I am is based upon, besides our parents and how we are raised but professionally so much who influenced me as an entrepreneur.
I can’t recommend him enough. He doesn’t do any type of client work. He hasn’t for ages. He writes copy for his own stuff and kills it. After I kicked off from working with him, I was a copywriter. I was freelancing. I did sales pages and email sequences. I had great clients. Life is good. I’m a marketer at heart. A few months into it I started looking at social media because I’m a Millennial and we are on social a lot, specifically, the ROI on influencer marketing. I was like, “This isn’t going anywhere. This is interesting.”
I started paying attention to it. I started to play with my own Instagram and grow my following. I got some lucrative brand deals. I figured out how to court brands, so I could get the ones that I wanted. With my background in copy and knowing how to like to sell things with words, it was a good combo. The account that I was doing influencer work on has since been hacked and sold by Russian hackers.
I’m so sorry. That’s horrible. Do you know Lisa Sasevich?
She’s incredible, basically what you do but speaking-wise. She told me her Instagram account was hacked. I don’t know by whom and she got it back. It was a case of all is well that ends well but I feel your pain.
It sucks but that was a little while ago. I started doing some influence work and growing my own Instagram. Within a few months of doing that, everybody came to me for social. That’s what everybody came to me for. I was like, “Cool. I’m going to do some social stuff.” I worked with people, helping them grow their followings, and get their message out there. I realized pretty quickly I didn’t want to work with people who wanted to be popular. I didn’t want to work with people that were looking for numbers.
I have been hearing about it a lot maybe it’s the people I’m speaking to who are like, “What is the point of being an influencer? Why are you influencing anything if you are twelve years old? I’m being extreme.
Why not? There’s a nine-year-old on YouTube who opens toys and makes $12 million or so a year. He’s got five million subscribers or whatever. Share your gifts with the world. I had my first cell phone in grade seven. We had the internet at my house when I was like 4 or 5. I was in that range where I grew up with it but not like from birth, whereas like my niece and nephews they know technology and it is ingrained. They can figure this stuff out. People say things like, “Is having an audience a real accomplishment?” Yes, it’s an accomplishment. It’s hard and scary to put yourself out there.
You’ve got to deal with rejection and roll with the punches.
All the haters that come online that tell you don’t know what they are doing or whatever.
One thing I find interesting is you will never ever be judged by somebody doing more than you. They might, for example, if you are screwing up or offending them, or something they might pity you. They will never talk bad about you. People who aren’t talking bad about you know because they get it. They are like, “They are having a hard time but I remember the start of my business too.” You will never get a crap from people who are doing more than you. The people you are getting shit from, don’t worry about it. They are losers.
They are sitting at home doing nothing and evaluating what you are doing.
I started working with people and helping them develop followings, and get influence. I realized quickly I didn’t want to work with people who wanted to be popular. I refined my offer and started working with people that have been very successful, either pre-social media or without social media’s because of my background in marketing, I am helping them get all their copy, content, and funnels, and throw it into social in a way that monetizes the platform first and foremost, and created a real connection with their audience.
That was a tipping point. This was somewhat of a Freudian slip if those exist because it put me in a position where AI was going into much bigger companies than I had ever built, primarily $2 million, $3 plus million companies. It put me where I was working with people that were twenty steps ahead of me in business. I could come in and do my part but I got to learn from them. I got to get immersed in their network.
It’s Jon déjà vu all over again. It’s your pattern. That happened to you with Jon and that’s what’s happening with you now. It’s not an accident. You are sending out that energy to the universe or it’s your mindset. Part of it is you are so open to learning.
That was what opened up my network and everything. A few months ago, we launched One Degree because I realized that I liked doing a lot of the high-level strategies. I have been involved in it enough at this point that I’ve got a pretty good eye for it. I’m pretty good at solving problems and diagnosing problems. That’s usually one of the bigger things.
You can’t solve a problem until you know what problem you are solving.
Much of the time we think it’s about finding the right answer but it’s way more about asking the right question, so here we are.
Who are some of your clients? When you said you knew you didn’t want to work with just influencers, you were very successful with that. It’s not always easy to walk away from clients that you are successful with. What was the more that you wanted from your clients or for your clients, or what your clients wanted?
It was more than I wanted for me. When I was working with people, it was whoever came my way, which is what you do in the beginning. You figure out what clients you work best with and that’s all part of it. When I was working with whoever came my way, I was lacking the intellectual stimulation of somebody who was business-minded, knew how to monetize, and had different stuff going on.
I have had this personal challenge lately with gearing myself, almost like learning how to study and focus. I realized I didn’t have great focus power when I wasn’t talking to someone or working. It makes sense because I never studied in school. I never learned how to focus. I wasn’t great at school. I didn’t study much. I made it through university. I was like, “I got to teach myself how to focus,” and so I did.
One thing that I have realized is my brain loves to focus. I love having 2 to 3 45-minute real in-depth work sessions, whether it’s for me or a client in the morning before I go workout. I can dig into something and let my brain go on it. There was an intellectual stimulation, particularly that was missing for me when I wasn’t working with business-minded people.
Is there a downside to that? I would imagine there’s a downside too when people are so business-focused.
Yes. You got to have your own company and work with entrepreneurs, you need to learn how to navigate around entrepreneurs. There are different types but you see a lot of similar traits. Lots of ideas very quickly. Money is up and down. Sometimes there are different amounts of zeros on the end of it. Things are shifting. I had to learn to be solid in my energy and hold my energy steady and relaxed. If something is going on with the client, they are having a personal problem or business problem, I need to be there steady and not take on their energy and help be the guiding light to get through it.
So much of the time, we think it’s about finding the right answer, but it’s way more about asking the right question.
You have to stay grounded when the entrepreneurs are going everywhere.
My assistant, I’m the same way with her. I texted her and I’m like, “I’m so sorry. Can you do this the next day? I forgot.” I’m like, “You can say no and tell me,” but she’s like the entrepreneur whisperer. She’s open with me. I know she’s managing me and I still like it. She’s so good. I got so lucky with that hire.
It’s who you are that brings these people to you. You can’t be that lucky all the time.
I appreciate you. TV has screwed us up in the sense that it’s a media in general and has ingrained us with this idea that there’s this happy ending, that’s not real life.
There’s TV and then there’s life.
Real life is picking your hard. Having a happy relationship is hard. Having a relationship where you are fighting all the time is hard. Being broke is hard and managing money as hard, pick your hard. Working for a boss, for a corporation, regular 9:00 to 5:00 can be hard. Working for an entrepreneur and being an entrepreneur can be hard, pick your hard.
There are no shortcuts and it’s not easy.
See where it takes you but there’s no magic third option that I have ever seen where it’s puppies and rainbows, you ride off into the sunset with the prince, and everything is cool. The point of life is to dig into it. See what you hate and like. See how you can gravitate towards what you like. See all of it. Especially now with cancel culture and all this nonsense, when we are resisting any type of conflict that’s presented, any type of opinions that vary, and any type saying, “That’s offensive to me,” well then f*** have a conversation. What’s the problem? One thing with entrepreneurs and a lot of the good ones that I have met and I have started to do this more is to lean into friction, and embrace uncomfortable situations. When friction presents itself, lean into it, learn from it, and explore it.
That’s the growth opportunity. What I tell my clients all the time, I must say this in a coaching call, at least five times a week, “Get comfortable being uncomfortable because that’s where the opportunity is.”
Unless people have been there, I don’t think they know what out of their comfort zone feels like.
If you are not out of your comfort zone, then you are playing safe and small. Staying in your comfort zone means you love the applause of the crowd, “I’m doing the same thing today that I did yesterday, and tomorrow I’m going to do the same thing I did today,” and there’s no growth and enlightenment. That’s my view unless you feel differently.
You have a very entrepreneurial audience, especially as entrepreneurs, is your brain hates change? It doesn’t know good or bad habits. It just knows habits and it knows habits are there to keep us alive. That’s why it’s keeping you doing what you have been doing. When you are out of your comfort zone, it feels like death. People are like, “I’m out of my comfort zone.” I’m like, “No, you don’t.” Your nervous system is going bonkers. You are on edge. You feel like you are never going to figure this out. You are trying to hold it together. You don’t know if you want to cry, scream, go for a run or have a nap.
When you are out of your comfort zone, you know it. Here’s what’s cool is every time that happens, there’s always something that stabilizes. You stay there for as long as you stay there in that freaked-out place. You fall off the cliff and stabilize but there’s a trampoline at the bottom of that cliff, so then you bounce and you come back, and the same problems that used to rock you for a couple of days, you handle before 9:00 AM. I get why it’s difficult for people. I also get why everybody is not an entrepreneur. I feel like it’s a nervous system conditioning and that is not always super fun and I get it.
In terms of being uncomfortable, I always tell people, “Feel where the discomfort is.” I’m in the middle of creating another course. I have only done one course before. I’ve written two books. I’ve done a lot of writing but this is only the second digital course I’m creating. I firmly believe you have to do something once to know how to do it, so hopefully this time I will know how to do it. Even when I think about it and as I’m saying it to you, my stomach is in a knot because I’m like, “I have to do this. I have to put the material together.” It is not a comfortable place because it’s a new thing I’m developing.
It’s so funny that we are talking about this. I will be real, I have been in a comfortable place for probably the last several weeks. Things have been good but I felt it where I’m like, “Interesting. I’m settling into this.” My company is growing and I’m very used to that evolution. I know I need to grow ahead of the company for anything to happen.
I sat down in the morning when I first got up and I did some journaling, “I feel like there’s a growth lacking. Where do I want to be?” I did some quick ten minutes and jot down, etc. “Wake up and here’s what I’m thinking about in the morning. Around this income coming in and I’m able to have this type of a lifestyle, and here’s what I feel.” I then laid down and did a meditation and said, “God, spirit, universe if there were any milestones that were going to be important for me to become the person that I wrote down, can you hit me with them in this meditation?”
I went into a meditation and the whole thing came. Everything came and it came backward. It was like, “There’s going to be a book deal. The book deal is going to come. The book deal is going to be big. The book deal is going to come because the podcast is going to blow up. The podcast is going to blow up because there’s one guest that’s going to come on the podcast and going to make it viral. You got the one guest because you did a speech. You got the speech because you did the video and, in the video, you were open about your past, what’s happened, and all this stuff. Before you did the video, you learned how to control the narrative. You learned how to manage the narrative and create a narrative, so you are confident going into this.” The whole thing came and I was like, “Wow.”
To be honest, there are elements of my past. I’m not talking about crimes or anything illegal but there are elements of my past that I have been very reserved about because I just have for whatever reason. When I started to think about this and was like, “I don’t care. It’s going to come out. I have never talked about this publicly but I will tell you.” I was a stripper for a year when I was in university, and that’s how I paid for school. I bartended in the club for two years before I danced but what was so fascinating about that was the best lesson in human psychology I ever got.
What was so interesting about that time and where there’s this instinct coming where it’s like, “Talk about this,” is you realize so quickly all people want is connection. If anybody were to have walked into the club I worked at and a high roller was there that night who paid big money came into the back room. They would have been like, “Really? This is what’s happening?” It was like naked therapy. It was hilarious. You would sit and talk. That was an interesting time. There’s so much in there that has shaped and helped me in ways. There’s a lot in there that I’m not going back to it ever. There’s a reason for that.
Thank you so much for sharing that. Honestly, I hear that and I’m like, “There’s so much skill involved with that, seriously.” It’s so interesting, we carry shame, and then when you share it people are it is what it is.
I haven’t talked about that publicly. A very close group of friends and family members only know about that. Even saying it, I’m relieved. People are going to think what they are going to think. When that download came to me, “The video is going to do well because you are going to talk about the past, and it’s going to be something.” It’s in of a clickbait-y title. There are a few titles that came to me.
I know a good copywriter that I would refer you to, isn’t that a title?
For the video, you need to learn to manage the narrative. I spent four hours YouTube-ing expert storytelling and managing the narrative. I found a few who like good people and reach out to them for the podcast.
Did they say yes?
Yes. Do you know who’s coming on? It’s Nick Nanton. He created Joe’s documentary. Amazing documentary filmmaker for anybody who’s reading. Several years later with comfort zones, it’s one of those things where once you get that feeling of you to get out of it, and you do it enough times and you realize you are not going to die then you’re like, “I’m ready.”
It’s interesting because what you shared and what is true behind any successful entrepreneur story is what you gave yourself, and what I am so grateful and appreciative for you sharing is you exposed your vulnerability. Once you expose your vulnerability, you are no longer held hostage by it. What does that do? It absolutely frees you up. It opens up the flood gates.
You can’t create brilliance. We are creators. We all know the most important relationship we have is with ourselves, the more you are close to that, it’s tightening up and you are not allowing your energy and your creativity to flow. It’s emotions that are repressed get amplified. What we do is we spend our lives avoiding uncomfortable feelings and it gets worse.
It’s a lot like a toothache. You first get a pain in your tooth and you are like, “I will chew on the other side of my mouth” It then goes away. The next thing you know, a few years later, all of a sudden you need a root canal. Whereas if you would’ve gone to the dentist the first time you might have needed a little filling thing. When we avoid our emotions, they get in our way more.
They define us as opposed to going into it, and it’s counterintuitive but when you go into it, it hurts, sucks, and it’s not fun until it releases. It’s so counterintuitive. You deal with it, face it, and don’t avoid it but don’t go around it. Going outside of our comfort zone into what’s uncomfortable exposes our vulnerabilities. That’s why people avoid it like the plague.
What you said is so important. Anybody who’s reading, I would reread that. This last summer, before I came up with this new offer, I went through one of the darkest nights of the soul I have ever been through wretched depression. I got isolated. My whole being was like, “I’m so f***ing sick of being this person.” I had fallen in love with a totally unavailable married guy.
I had these patterns. I was smart enough, at least at this point in my life to cut it off clean but it hurt like a b****. I had these patterns of chasing after unavailable people and not valuing myself and abandonment issues. I went through the darkest night of the soul that I have been through, came out of it, thank God, and realized, “I can build my own identity and want to build it differently.” There’s crappy stuff that’s happened in the past.
Again, maybe this is part of the stuff I will open up to open up within the video. There’s crappy stuff. That’s happened in the past but it doesn’t mean I can’t change it moving forward. The new offer came and then all of this. If I would have dealt with it earlier and been a little bit more open and communicative with people who care about me and what I was dealing with, maybe I wouldn’t have had a few months of gnarly depression. Maybe I wouldn’t have even engaged in that relationship in the first place or wanted that validation.
All people want is connection.
What you said before is so insanely valuable. It’s one of the best things you can ever do for yourself. I don’t think we know our subconscious beliefs or what makes us run because of our ingrained belief systems. The only way you know is to look around you. What’s in your bank account? What are your relationships like? What was your house look like? These are your beliefs. These are the standards that you have. These are what you hold yourself to or what you think you are worth. I can be a pill sometimes.
To go back to your Freudian slip. A lot of what Freud said is author rapper now but he said, “All behavior is unconsciously motivated.” Before Freud, we didn’t even know about the unconscious. “Dreams are the royal road to the unconscious.” If all behavior has the unconscious motivation, that’s something to take a look at but what you said before is important that I also want to comment on. Our past informs us, it doesn’t define us. You can write your own script. There’s a great book by Dr. Benjamin Hardy, Personality Isn’t Permanent. If you read that book and you do the work, it tells you that you can change and evolve.
It’s interesting because I feel like we get a mixed message from society. “That’s not how she felt yesterday.” Are we not allowed to change or evolve? If not, we would still be going to work like riding a horse thing. You are relatively newer on the journey than I am but we are always learning. Nobody ever has all the answers. The entrepreneurial world has its crazies as much as anything else but for the most part, you will find the people that are genuinely open and happy for you.
This is not my first rodeo. I have truly been around the block a few times and I am amazed at how open, genuine, generous, and accepting people are because we all have our own craziness. We are who we are. Show me someone that doesn’t have a fault or something they are a little embarrassed about, and I will show you someone that’s got an issue to say it nicely.
We are all nuts. The crazy that you can manage in your life. It’s great when you can accept that. For me, I have abandonment issues I’m working through. I can be a psycho when I’m dealing with somebody avoidant. It’s more ha-ha crazy, not uh-oh crazy. I have never damaged property. I have never put a post on social media. I get some long texts and crap. It’s also like, “Ella, stop dating unavailable people. Stop enjoying being pursued by unavailable people. What the f***? Is this the best you think you deserve?”
It’s one of those things that we are always working through with me in particular, it happens to be in the relationship area of life. That’s why it’s brought up. For other people, there’s the money area, the family area, or whatever it is. I haven’t figured it out yet, but I feel like it’s worth figuring out. It’s worth getting uncomfortable to figure out.
We are all figuring it out and once we think we have it figured out, watch out.
It’s never figured out but it’s worth putting the work in to improve it. It’s worth challenging yourself to see, “Maybe one day this could change.”
The smartest people I know will tell you that they are constantly unlearning to learn. It’s incredible. I want to have part two. Would you come on again?
Before we go, what’s the last book you re-read and why?
There are two books that I’m cycling through that are helping me with this. The one that I’m reading now that I’ve read probably seventeen times is Dollars Flow To Me Easily by Richard Dotts. I don’t know if there are many copies of it left in print. They are all on Kindle. The book seems like it’s about money but it’s about creating a very smooth change in your life. There are a lot of mental exercises. I like it.
The second book I’m reading is The Science of Getting Rich by Wallace D Wattles. Again, it seems like it’s about money and there’s a lot about money in there, but it’s about creating evolution and becoming the person that you want to be. Those two, for whatever reason, I don’t know some guidance I’m getting, I have been reading one, and the other. You can read them in an hour. They are tiny books.
It feels to me like you are getting ready to manifest what you were referencing. It’s like Think and Grow Rich, that’s not about money. It’s a whole mindset. Ella, tell everyone how they can find out more about you. Where would you like them to go?
Find me on Instagram @Ella.J.Mae. That’s probably the platform that’s best to message me if want to get in touch. All the links will be below. I hang out on Clubhouse a fair amount too. If you want to chat with me on there, come up on stage. That’s probably the best one but I’m on all the platforms, Ella J. Mae.
Thank you so much. This was incredible. I can’t wait to do part two.
You are good. Thank you.
Thank you. That concludes this episode of The Trust Doctor: Restoring Trust & Enriching Significant Relationships. As promised Ella took us for a ride. Make sure you like, comment, share and subscribe to this show. Until next time, be well.
- One Degree
- One Degree Show
- Genius Network
- Personality Isn’t Permanent
- Dollars Flow to Me Easily
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About Ella Mae
Ella is the CEO of One Degree and the host of the One Degree Show Podcast, which shot to the top of the charts with more than 400,000 downloads in the first dozen episodes! She started her career as a copywriter but always had a passion for connection and using social media to grow her network. As she dove more into social media she realized all the areas that it could be used more effectively to create real connection as opposed to just being popular. She started working with entrepreneurs that had been very successful without social media and helped them build & utilize their social presence in a way that monetized the channels and created a real connection with their audience. As the business grew she realized that although she had a passion for helping people show up on social, she really wanted to use her network more effectively and solve higher level problems. She needed a new offer and One Degree was born. One Degree helps entrepreneurs who are scaling by connecting them with vetted vendors who have solutions. She spends her workdays talking to CEOs & founders, helping them figure out the real problem that’s holding up the business growth and introducing them to vetted people who can implement solutions. In between you can find her meeting new people at conferences, laughing with her favorite Clubhouse friends, gardening, riding horses, bike riding & surfing.